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		<title>Comment on The male wish list by Rick</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/02/20/the-male-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-30299</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all for reading and for your comments. Much appreciated.

Since I published this post, &lt;a href=&quot;https://twitter.com/#!/search/malewishlist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;#malewishlist&lt;/a&gt; has received some additional attention in the form of &lt;a href=&quot;http://journeytomanhood.blogspot.com/2012/02/male-wish-list.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the post suggested above&lt;/a&gt; by Earl Hipp on his Man-Making blog (later &lt;a href=&quot;http://mankindprojectjournal.org/2012/03/what-do-men-want-why-not-just-ask-them&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;re-posted&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;em&gt;The Mankind Project Journal &lt;/em&gt;website) as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://goodmenproject.com/good-feed-blog/the-male-wish-list/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a very enthusiastic post&lt;/a&gt; on the Good Men Project blog that led to &lt;a href=&quot;http://goodmenproject.com/comment-of-the-day/there-could-be-another-100-items-here-a-response-to-malewishlist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a &lt;em&gt;second&lt;/em&gt; post&lt;/a&gt; on that same site.

All of this subsequent activity was completely unexpected when I wrote and published this post three weeks ago. For me, it is a great validation of my long-held belief that many men are eager to open up and will share what is in their hearts quite eloquently if provided with a means to do so that feels safe, respectful, and friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for reading and for your comments. Much appreciated.</p>
<p>Since I published this post, <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/search/malewishlist" rel="nofollow">#malewishlist</a> has received some additional attention in the form of <a href="http://journeytomanhood.blogspot.com/2012/02/male-wish-list.html" rel="nofollow">the post suggested above</a> by Earl Hipp on his Man-Making blog (later <a href="http://mankindprojectjournal.org/2012/03/what-do-men-want-why-not-just-ask-them" rel="nofollow">re-posted</a> on <em>The Mankind Project Journal </em>website) as well as <a href="http://goodmenproject.com/good-feed-blog/the-male-wish-list/" rel="nofollow">a very enthusiastic post</a> on the Good Men Project blog that led to <a href="http://goodmenproject.com/comment-of-the-day/there-could-be-another-100-items-here-a-response-to-malewishlist/" rel="nofollow">a <em>second</em> post</a> on that same site.</p>
<p>All of this subsequent activity was completely unexpected when I wrote and published this post three weeks ago. For me, it is a great validation of my long-held belief that many men are eager to open up and will share what is in their hearts quite eloquently if provided with a means to do so that feels safe, respectful, and friendly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The male wish list by Een mooie week : Zwerven door het alledaagse</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/02/20/the-male-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29676</link>
		<dc:creator>Een mooie week : Zwerven door het alledaagse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 09:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] schreven over de #malewishlist , wat ik op mijn blog noemde &#8216;Wat mannen echt willen&#8216;: Rick Belden, journey to manhood en the good men [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] schreven over de #malewishlist , wat ik op mijn blog noemde &#8216;Wat mannen echt willen&#8216;: Rick Belden, journey to manhood en the good men [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The male wish list by Trich</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/02/20/the-male-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29385</link>
		<dc:creator>Trich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely stunning response to #malewishlist Rick &amp; I wish you the courage to be :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely stunning response to #malewishlist Rick &amp; I wish you the courage to be <img src='http://rickbelden.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on The male wish list by kath</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/02/20/the-male-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29211</link>
		<dc:creator>kath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy for you too. It is so good to see brothers speaking out, sharing  and supporting one another other.  I want to hear what you have to say! Thankyou. x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy for you too. It is so good to see brothers speaking out, sharing  and supporting one another other.  I want to hear what you have to say! Thankyou. x</p>
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		<title>Comment on The male wish list by Earl Hipp</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/02/20/the-male-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29102</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl Hipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last wish on Peter&#039;s list of &quot;What Men Really Want,&quot; is, &quot;One of the best (&amp; easiest) ways we have to support one another as men is to offer our recognition of good words &amp; good work.&quot; 

With that spirit in mind, blessings to you Rick for &quot;fathering&quot; the list into existence, and to you Peter for the wisdom to capture the male truth that sprang up out of the initial intention. It is indeed, a beautiful think. On my Man-Making Blog, I have a large and global audience, and a mission to speak about good men. I&#039;m thinking, with your permission, I may take this idea the next step.

I will copy the submissions from Peter&#039;s blog, edit for a little redundancy and space considerations, add your story Rick from the beginning of this thread, and publish it on the Man-Making Blog. I could link back to Peters blog for people who want to read them all.

Do you men give me your permission?  Let me know at earl@man-making.com

Blessings, (and I do think you&#039;d have a great ebook with this idea).

Earl

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last wish on Peter&#8217;s list of &#8220;What Men Really Want,&#8221; is, &#8220;One of the best (&amp; easiest) ways we have to support one another as men is to offer our recognition of good words &amp; good work.&#8221; </p>
<p>With that spirit in mind, blessings to you Rick for &#8220;fathering&#8221; the list into existence, and to you Peter for the wisdom to capture the male truth that sprang up out of the initial intention. It is indeed, a beautiful think. On my Man-Making Blog, I have a large and global audience, and a mission to speak about good men. I&#8217;m thinking, with your permission, I may take this idea the next step.</p>
<p>I will copy the submissions from Peter&#8217;s blog, edit for a little redundancy and space considerations, add your story Rick from the beginning of this thread, and publish it on the Man-Making Blog. I could link back to Peters blog for people who want to read them all.</p>
<p>Do you men give me your permission?  Let me know at <a href="mailto:earl@man-making.com">earl@man-making.com</a></p>
<p>Blessings, (and I do think you&#8217;d have a great ebook with this idea).</p>
<p>Earl</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/ManMakingBlog" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/ManMakingBlog</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The male wish list by Peter de Kock</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/02/20/the-male-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29079</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter de Kock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi friends, my original idea was to start a separate blog, or perhaps even an e-book, dedicated to the male wish list. I tried to find some help but did not succeed. As time went by, I felt some urge not to wait any longer and start collecting the #malewishlist tweets and to post them on my personal blog. Working through the list, I felt both happy and sad. Happy because of the beautiful and heartwarming wishes. Sad because of the gap between reality today and the wishes. Thanks a lot for your initiative to start the male wish. I believe there is some kind of magic in the tweets.  I hope it will touch many hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi friends, my original idea was to start a separate blog, or perhaps even an e-book, dedicated to the male wish list. I tried to find some help but did not succeed. As time went by, I felt some urge not to wait any longer and start collecting the #malewishlist tweets and to post them on my personal blog. Working through the list, I felt both happy and sad. Happy because of the beautiful and heartwarming wishes. Sad because of the gap between reality today and the wishes. Thanks a lot for your initiative to start the male wish. I believe there is some kind of magic in the tweets.  I hope it will touch many hearts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The male wish list by Rick</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/02/20/the-male-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-29076</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Steve. Yes, he&#039;d mentioned to me that he was taking on this task, but I had no idea he&#039;d be as successful with it as he&#039;s been. He did an awesome job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Steve. Yes, he&#8217;d mentioned to me that he was taking on this task, but I had no idea he&#8217;d be as successful with it as he&#8217;s been. He did an awesome job.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The male wish list by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick
Peter told me he was compiling the list a while ago and wish I&#039;d told you too

But good to know you heard it too

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick<br />
Peter told me he was compiling the list a while ago and wish I&#8217;d told you too</p>
<p>But good to know you heard it too</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>Comment on saboteur by Rick</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2011/05/19/saboteur/comment-page-1/#comment-28370</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ruth and Deena:&lt;/b&gt; Thanks very much for reading and sharing your insights on this poem. As I said in an earlier comment, I think the inner saboteur often gets an undeserved bad rap. My latest life-sucking corporate meat grinder gig has my saboteur kicking up a storm like a wild horse in a stall. I used to wonder why that guy had to bother me so much. Now I know he&#039;s just trying to keep me alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ruth and Deena:</b> Thanks very much for reading and sharing your insights on this poem. As I said in an earlier comment, I think the inner saboteur often gets an undeserved bad rap. My latest life-sucking corporate meat grinder gig has my saboteur kicking up a storm like a wild horse in a stall. I used to wonder why that guy had to bother me so much. Now I know he&#8217;s just trying to keep me alive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A mini dreamwork primer by Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading and commenting. The image of the deer in your dream does seem sad, but there may be some other levels of information present beyond what seems obvious to us at first. I think the typical tendency is to expect our dreams to confirm our existing biases, whether in the form of our dearest hopes or deepest fears, when in reality the whole point of the dream is often to tell us something we don&#039;t already know. I don&#039;t know what that deer might have to tell you, but I hope you find out. Any dream image or event that leaves us wanting to know more usually has some good information for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading and commenting. The image of the deer in your dream does seem sad, but there may be some other levels of information present beyond what seems obvious to us at first. I think the typical tendency is to expect our dreams to confirm our existing biases, whether in the form of our dearest hopes or deepest fears, when in reality the whole point of the dream is often to tell us something we don&#8217;t already know. I don&#8217;t know what that deer might have to tell you, but I hope you find out. Any dream image or event that leaves us wanting to know more usually has some good information for us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on saboteur by Deena Harbaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deena Harbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your poem is awesome. The saboteur is like the kid who has finally gotten fed up with all the abuse and refuses to accept one more thing. I call that part the Incredible Hulk. The kid, or the kid inside, is ready to fight or die. Anything but get hurt again.

Love to read your stuff, Rick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your poem is awesome. The saboteur is like the kid who has finally gotten fed up with all the abuse and refuses to accept one more thing. I call that part the Incredible Hulk. The kid, or the kid inside, is ready to fight or die. Anything but get hurt again.</p>
<p>Love to read your stuff, Rick.</p>
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		<title>Comment on saboteur by Ruth Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the Inner Fire!  Great poem, Rick-lots of power, unrefined by society! Jung talks about this. It&#039;s hard for kids who were abused, but if the fire gets extinguished there is depression or worse. We need to help abused children to recover that part of their essence. 

Best wishes to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the Inner Fire!  Great poem, Rick-lots of power, unrefined by society! Jung talks about this. It&#8217;s hard for kids who were abused, but if the fire gets extinguished there is depression or worse. We need to help abused children to recover that part of their essence. </p>
<p>Best wishes to you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A mini dreamwork primer by releasing lunacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>releasing lunacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed reading. I never thought to consider the dream from the point of view of someone or something in the dream. I recently had a dream in which a deer twisted her own neck around; presumably breaking it. In the dream, I watched this happen -quietly and detached. To me, it just seemed like a sad thing that deer did to herself. There are a couple obvious potential takeaways from the dream. But I find myself wanting to know more. Looking at things from the deer&#039;s perspective would be a really interesting approach. Thanks. ~rl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed reading. I never thought to consider the dream from the point of view of someone or something in the dream. I recently had a dream in which a deer twisted her own neck around; presumably breaking it. In the dream, I watched this happen -quietly and detached. To me, it just seemed like a sad thing that deer did to herself. There are a couple obvious potential takeaways from the dream. But I find myself wanting to know more. Looking at things from the deer&#8217;s perspective would be a really interesting approach. Thanks. ~rl</p>
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		<title>Comment on obituary 12-11-11 by Rick</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/01/16/obituary-12-11-11/comment-page-1/#comment-28209</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Steve, and thanks to you and Rupesh for your original suggestion of the obituary exercise in our men&#039;s group last April and your patience in creating a safe space for me to begin the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Steve, and thanks to you and Rupesh for your original suggestion of the obituary exercise in our men&#8217;s group last April and your patience in creating a safe space for me to begin the process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on obituary 12-11-11 by Steve</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/01/16/obituary-12-11-11/comment-page-1/#comment-28207</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 06:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rick,

Really good to see this!  Vulnerable and naked and real and courageous and creative as ever! I like the idea of the &quot;fulfilled late in life&quot; piece as it sets the path to follow.  May all the desires of your heart have words, energy and intention - and may all the best ones come to be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rick,</p>
<p>Really good to see this!  Vulnerable and naked and real and courageous and creative as ever! I like the idea of the &#8220;fulfilled late in life&#8221; piece as it sets the path to follow.  May all the desires of your heart have words, energy and intention &#8211; and may all the best ones come to be!</p>
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		<title>Comment on obituary 12-11-11 by Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Seth and Theresa, for reading and commenting. I appreciate it.

I would be remiss if I neglected to express my thanks and appreciation to the other members of my men&#039;s group, whose positive feedback and encouragement when I shared this poem with them were instrumental in my decision to take the risk of posting it and sharing it more widely here on the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Seth and Theresa, for reading and commenting. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>I would be remiss if I neglected to express my thanks and appreciation to the other members of my men&#8217;s group, whose positive feedback and encouragement when I shared this poem with them were instrumental in my decision to take the risk of posting it and sharing it more widely here on the blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on obituary 12-11-11 by Theresa</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2012/01/16/obituary-12-11-11/comment-page-1/#comment-28116</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 02:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is wonderful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on obituary 12-11-11 by Seth Mullins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 01:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand your vulnerability, Rick, but am also glad that you shared this. I can see you in it; I can see myself, and many others. It gets down to the real points, the crucial things that one should be remembered for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand your vulnerability, Rick, but am also glad that you shared this. I can see you in it; I can see myself, and many others. It gets down to the real points, the crucial things that one should be remembered for.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poetry on video: &#8220;secret children&#8221; by Rick</title>
		<link>http://rickbelden.com/blog/2011/02/20/poetry-on-video-secret-children/comment-page-1/#comment-27950</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Faith, for watching and commenting on this video. I&#039;m glad to know that you found it helpful on such a challenging day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Faith, for watching and commenting on this video. I&#8217;m glad to know that you found it helpful on such a challenging day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Poetry on video: &#8220;secret children&#8221; by Faith McDaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith McDaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing this Rick.  You have no idea how much I needed to find this today, especially after having to deal with hearing the words come out of the mouth of a parent of a registered sex offender.  I had to turn and walk away while trying to keep my anger in check and the contents of my stomach where they belong as I listened to the words &quot;it was just some kind of family conspiracy thing.&quot;  To hear these words after holding 2 of those he abused was...I still cannot put the entire experience into words.  Again, just thank you for sharing and looking forward to more from you.  The healing journey continues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing this Rick.  You have no idea how much I needed to find this today, especially after having to deal with hearing the words come out of the mouth of a parent of a registered sex offender.  I had to turn and walk away while trying to keep my anger in check and the contents of my stomach where they belong as I listened to the words &#8220;it was just some kind of family conspiracy thing.&#8221;  To hear these words after holding 2 of those he abused was&#8230;I still cannot put the entire experience into words.  Again, just thank you for sharing and looking forward to more from you.  The healing journey continues&#8230;</p>
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